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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 15 Apr 93       Volume 11 : Issue 81

Today's Topics:

      --> TIP: 'accidentally' formatted HDs...recovery.
      A Comment about INFO-MAC (C)
      A comment about Info-Mac (R)
      Auto More-Than Doubler - Kudos!!!
      Best of the new Macs (the Centris-650)
      Computer Insurance (R)
      Connecting Keyboard on PB (S)
      CricketGraph III & "Death" cursor
      Express modum, TERM, connecting problems
      FileMaker Pro Bug?
      Have you ever seen a skull on your monitor (Q)
      History of hte net.
      IIci and LC III confusion
      IIci vs. LCIII or Palatino is not Palatino
      IIci vs LCIII (R) (2 msgs)
      IIg connecting problem [A?]
      indelible ink cartridges for StyleWriter?
      Japanese Worldscript (Q)
      Laboratory Notebook/ Data Tracking Software [Q]
      LaTex and TeX on Machintosh. (Wow!)
      LaTeX or plain TeX program.
      LC III or Centris 610 for math related (esp SPSS)
      Logitech mouse driver version 1.11
      Mac-to-Sun Sound Conversion? [Q]
      Mac Insurance (R)
      MacWrite Pro versus After Dark
      MacX + System 7.1 =..... Trouble!
      MAC X problems, to clarify
      micro database packages
      need folder pswd protect
      network fax
      NFS server software for Mac?
      odd applications
      Outbound vs. Powerbook???
      Plotting and Graphing Software for Windows
      Safeware Computer Insurance
      Scanner & Film recorder (Q) & my opinions...
      sil-ipa.hqx
      statistical and process simulation
      Symbol Bold
      System Heap issue of TidBITS
      Translation from Microsoft Word to text files
      Urdu font
      V [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines
      Vertical Centris 610?
      VideoSync update

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 19:24:30 EST
From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: --> TIP: 'accidentally' formatted HDs...recovery.

Usually I am griping to this list about this and that, but I had a really
great experience today with a Mac and a recovery program, and I thought
I'd share what I learned from the experience in the hope that someone
might benefit...and not go through what I, and a friend went through
today...

Situation: Standard, vanilla Apple Internal HD. User wanted to take advantage
	   of the 'spare' room that was on the HD that Apple didn't use.
	   Used Apple's HD Setup. Whoops....clicked on by the warning
	   dialogues
	   and got his free space. Problem: No more HD, no more files, no
	   utilities that made backups of the catalogs and all that, i.e.
	   CP Mirror, or Norton FileSaver. *NO* protection at all. Everything
	   was gone. Or so it seemed. Oh, and *NO* backups of data files.

Response:  Astonishment at his bewilderment....where did my files go? he
asked.
	   Despite the warnings in the HD Setup, he went on and repartitioned
	   and had a very empty disk with nothin' on it.

	   First used the Undelete features of MacTools and Norton Utilities
	   (latest versions)....no luck. Looking for file-types,
	   file signatures....no luck....CP's Undelete was slow, and didn't
	   produce much better results than NUM2. (Norton Utilites Macintosh)

	   Finally used Norton Utilities once again....clicked on the
	   volume recover/crashed disk icon and got to the 'undelete'
	   of the NUM2 suite....

 ------>   TIP: Hold down CMD-SHIFT, while clicking on the 'Drive' button.
	   Go through the sequence of drives until you get the 'Floppy-no
	   disk'
	   and one more past, and you get the HD itself as a single unit,
	   no partitions, no nothing...just plain Quantum-40. Use this
	   instead of the ordinary 'drive' process....forces the utility
	   program to go through the whole disk and not rely on any catalogs
	   it found.  (this is also documented in the READ-ME of NUM2 install-
	   ation, but who reads those?)

	   Recover by 'other methods' and scan for 'All resource' files,
	   select options, and scan all of the disk.

	   NUM recovered all of these files perfectly....to another HD,
	   but file-layout was lost...no big deal, all his files were
	   safe.

	   Fortunately he hadn't put any other stuff on the HD right after
	   he realised his mistake, and thus, was saved about a month worth
	   of labour to reconstruct what he had screwed up in 30 seconds.

	   And no, he did not backup. And yes, he has learned his lesson,
	   and Norton Utilities has definitely earned its keep on my HD.

Just thought I'd tell y'all....can't advocate NUM enough....

Dieder

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Date: 15 Apr 1993 09:19:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Jorgensen <PJORGENSEN@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU>
Subject: A Comment about INFO-MAC (C)

Several people have commented that the digest is getting too big to handle.
May I humbly suggest you try one of the Digest readers/organizers? My Info-Mac
Digest HyperCard Stack is in /card/mac-digest-stack-11.hqx. Among other
features, it makes it easy and quick to jump to topics of interest, skipping
those that don't tickle you. It is still freeware.  Some features probably
aren't even documented, like context-sensitive clicking. I.e. click on a line
in the digest and

if it contains an email address then
   the address is extracted in the form IN%"address" and copied to the
   clipboard.
if it contains an "[Archived as..." message then
   the pathname of the item is extracted to be saved in a file, suitable for
    sending to one of the archive servers, or using as a list when you
    get around to ftp-ing or gophering.
else
   the word you clicked on is searched for.
end if

It imports digests of any length, etc. etc. etc.

There are others tools for managing the digest also, but I'll let their
authors plug them ;).

Peter Jorgensen - Colgate University Research & Instructional Computing Spec.
		- Mac/DOS/VMS consultant, PMDF Postmaster, HyperTalker

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Date: 15 Apr 1993 11:52:48 EST
From: "Jeff Kline"  <egkline@befac.indstate.edu>
Subject: A comment about Info-Mac (R)

Dave writes:
"In Info-Mac-Digest 77, Jeff Kline complained about few responses to
some questions he had asked.  Perhaps the reason is that mail does
not
reach him."

<<example deleted>>

valid point, but I receive mail (at least 10-20 per day) from
people all over the world (australia, france, germany, etc.). This
is usually not a problem. If I am unreachable, you can still mail to
Info-Mac.

Also I do not think that I was complaining. All I said was that "I
have a Question/Comment" and asked "Is this a Trend?"  my post was
tame, because that was what i intended.  No flames were intended. I
do realize that e-mail is not good at catching the nuances of
non-verbal communication.  And on that note.

"Stop your whining."

I wasn't!  Are you!  :-)

Jeff

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 21:30:52 EDT
From: adorfman@cs.tufts.edu (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: Auto More-Than Doubler - Kudos!!!

I just backed up my hard drive, which is using the AutoDoubler. It is a 40 MB,
and has about 5 MB free (i.e. 35 MB of AutoDoubled stuff).

I hooked up an external hard drive, and dragged my icon onto it. I let Auto
Doubler decompress everything along the way. The resulting folder was 77
MB!!!

AutoDoubler doesn't compress system folders, and mine was 4 MB. The end result
is that AutoDoubler's compression ratio was 2.4:1. I have seen several
comments suggesting that the "double" in AutoDoubler was unduly optimistic.
I thought I would let the world know that I have seen it live up to its name.

-Avram Dorfman (adorfman@cs.tufts.edu)

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 09:22:18 GMT
From: hewat@ill.fr (Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble)
Subject: Best of the new Macs (the Centris-650)

There has been a lot of discussion about whether the LCIII is a better
deal than a discounted CI.  We were about to buy some LCIII's with Sony
16" monitors for use as X-terminals (among other things) when we had
a tip-off from John  Williams about a special deal on the Centris-650.

In FRANCE we were offered a Centris-650 4/230 for about $2000.  This
was the full 68040 machine with the fast 230 Meg hard drive.  The price
was for education users trading any old computer terminal, and did
not include taxes.  For $3500 we were offered the C650/230 with
an Apple 16" monitor, extended Apple QWERTY keyboard and Mac-X.

The C650/230 is a great machine.  I would swap it for my Quadra-700
any day, even though it looks a bit like a PC.  We also tried the LCIII,
and it too is a good machine that works almost as well with Mac-X.

The Moral ?  Look out for special deals on the C650.  And congratulations
to Apple France for a C650 deal that is (was ?) really competitive with
486 PC clones.

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE (hewat@ill.fr) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 17:03:25 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Subject: Computer Insurance (R)

I have been most interested in seeing comments in Info-Mac regarding
computer insurance, especially the ones indicating that State Farm renter's
insurance covers computers. I have homeowner's insurance (plus earthquake,
auto, life, and a few others) also through State Farm. When I bought my
system for home several years ago, I turned first to my agent who carefully
pointed out that my policy specifically excluded "business equipment" from
any coverage. He was quite candid with me and said that while the company
would cover a Nintendo, or perhaps even something like a Commodore 64 as a
"home computer," my Macintosh System (which cost > $10K back then) was
clearly for "business" and would not be covered. He offered to write me a
"business" policy, but then was very open about telling me to look first at
the companies which specialized in insuring computers. This caused me to
stop and think about an earlier situation of a similar type -- motorcycle
insurance. Years ago when I was an active rider, I did all the research and
discovered that the "traditional" insurance companies all charged a lot
more for motorcycle insurance than did the companies specializing in
motorcycles.

Suspecting that the same thing might be true of computer insurance, I
checked with several other insurance carriers, in addition to companies
like Safeware. I learned a great deal. Some companies cover computers with
their homeowner's or renter's insurance; many do not, or make the
deductible so high that it isn't worthwhile. Some allow the addition of a
rider to cover extra value or reduce deductibile; others don't.

The bottom line for me is that I bought a policy from Safeware that covers
all of my hardware *and* software against all risks, including even power
surges and the like. One netter commented that s/he had never seen
insurance covering software, and why bother -- just keep adequate backups.
Unfortunately, a fire or earthquake might cause me to lose the
documentation and the original disks, things which a backup cannot replace.
It is a loss to me if I have to repurchase a package because I don't have
the original disks or because I need the documentation.

Your bottom line might be different, but if you think that your computer is
automatically covered by your current insurance, I'd urge you to check
again, carefully, just to make sure it actually is.

Jerry
-----
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu   All opinions are mine alone

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 19:46 EST
From: "PROF. L.G. LEDUC" <LLEDUC@nickel.laurentian.ca>
Subject: Connecting Keyboard on PB (S)

A few days ago I asked about the dangers of connecting a keyboard to a
PowerBook computer. Here is a summary of the replies which I received on
this matter.

Overall, it looks like there is no problem in connecting such a device to a
PowerBook.

Thanks to all who responded to my question. It is much appreciated.

Leo G. Leduc
leo@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca


Summary follows:

 ---------------------------------

If you want your battery to run longer, don't connect ADB devices to the PB
when it's not plugged in.  Or at least plug low-power devices, such as a
mouse.

The standard keyboard is also OK, or so i'm told.  But a modem could draw
more power than the PB's battery is willing to give to the ADB port, and the
Extended Keyboard does that for sure (don't know about the Adjustable
keyboard,
though...)

 ---------------------------------

I haven't heard that external ADB devices to PowerBooks would damage them,
but they definitely draw a lot more power from the PB.  I recommand doing
that only when the PB is running from an AC outlet.

 ---------------------------------

Somewhere in the System Reference book, there is a power limit stated on the
ADB controller.  I think it is one where no more than 3 ADB devices can be
connected at any one time.  2 of course already exist with the powerbook
(the keyboard and the trackball.  I have connected a mouse to a Powerbook
145 with no problem (I have yet gotten used to using trackballs).
However, depending on the power needed of the keyboard, you
may/or may not be able to connect the additional keyboard to your
Powerbook.

 ---------------------------------

i don't think you should worry re: using a keyboard and mouse on
your pb;  of greater importance is the power drain placed on your
batteries, although you're probably running off ac if you have
a keyboard handy.  i believe that the pb adb is supposed to be able
to handle up to 3 low-power (newer) devices.  at any rate, the
greatest danger would be if you connected/disconnected things while
the computer was on/asleep.

 ---------------------------------

We add keyboards, Track balls, mice, tablets to PowerBooks all the time
here. As mater of fact it is our standard configuration to use an external
large screen as well.  PowerBooks (with the exception of Duo's) expect it.

 ---------------------------------

this is info from apple's spec sheets:
  desktop macs provide up to 500ma power, recommended max of 3
  pbooks provide up to 200ma power, recommended max of 3
  mouse draws up to 80 ma
  keyboard draws from 25 to 80ma, depending on model
  apple's new mouse II draws 10ma

so it looks to me as if apple is providing plenty of extra power
on it's adb port designs, and the maximum recommendation of 3
devices is a guideline that has more to do with cable length
and signal integrity more than anything else.  so don't worry
about hooking up that extended keyboard and mouse to your powerbook;
it's adb can handle it without any problems.

 ---------------------------------

In order to type in reams of numeric data, I really need a numeric keypad.
Those control panels that remap the keyboard of the PowerBook are great,
but unless you're a schmuck you've noticed that the keys on a numeric
keypad are in STRAIGHT columns and the keys on a PowerBook are CROOKED! I
did not enjoy trying to find the right angle, so I did the next best thing:
I swiped a keyboard from my officemate after work, brought it home, and
hooked it up to the ADB port. Data entry was a breeze, I had it back before
he got to work the next morning, and my PowerBook 145 6/40 was none the
worse.

 ---------------------------------

I regularly use an EXT KBD II and a Mouse on my PB160.  So do
three-four other people where I work.

 ---------------------------------


my manual claims that you can attach whatever ABD unit,
BUT you must ensure not to exceed some maximum power/current.
This limit is quite low, so even an ordinary mouse can be too
much? Check the hardware you have and the manual for the
exact digit.

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 08:53:40 -0600
From: DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU (Dave Martin)
Subject: CricketGraph III & "Death" cursor

D.W.G.VAN.KRAALINGEN@CABO.AGRO.NL asks:
>Cricket Graph III:
>Running Cricket Graph III 1.01 with VM off and 32 bit on
>often (not always !) causes the system to hang even on a completely
>bare machine with only Cricket and a system. What is both interesting and
>frightening is that sometimes when Cricket hangs, the mouse cursor changes
>into a skull (Yes, a death's face !) before the machine is dead completely.
>Running Disinfectant 3.1 gives no clues of a possible new virus present on
>the machine. What is also interesting is that although Cricket crashes with
>empty Extensions and Control panel folders it does not crash (at least much
>less) when the system was booted using the shift key. Apparently the shift
>key does more than simply disabling extensions and control panel stuff.

I just happened to run CGIII yesterday for the first time in a couple of
months (I still use CG1.3 most of the time, since all my old stuff is in
that format) and noticed the odd cursor. It looks a bit more like an alien
face, mouth opened in an "O", with its hands on its cheeks (kinda like the
kid in Home Alone). I wasn't sure if I just hadn't noticed it before or if
it was something new. I just opened CGIII with ResEdit and there was the
cursor...ID=666. I haven't had any problems with it crashing, but then I
haven't upgraded to 7.1 (CA-Cricket has a lot of DOS influence now, so
don't expect them to follow Apple's guides too well ;).
I just checked a fresh copy from the master disk and it has the cursor in
it, so it's not something spreading from the 'net. Wish I could remember if
I had seen the cursor appear before -- it could be something left in as a
prank, or by a disgruntled programmer. If anyone else with CGIII indicates
that this is a new occurrence, then I'd have to believe that there is
something to all this...
-- Dave Martin - TAMU/GERG - DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU - DBM@AOL.COM --

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 10:00:20 -0600
From: C4898@UMSLVMA.umsl.edu (Larry Pickett)
Subject: Express modum, TERM, connecting problems

We have just received notification that a problem I reported here - a DUO
using an Express Modum is unable to connect to out 7171 at 14.4 with error
correction turned on - is due to the modum spontaneously changing the 7-1-E
setting to 8-1-N when the MNP connection is established.  The engineers are
working on a fix the current work around is to turn off MNP with the ATQ0
command.

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 19:55:17 EDT
From: Clare Durst <CCD@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject: FileMaker Pro Bug?

I think I've discovered a bug in FileMaker Pro2.

Every year I have logged into a database a description of certain courses.
The descriptions contain commas and quote marks. Each year I "dump"
the list out into a tab or comma delimited file and read it into a
merge file with Word. Works fine, reads in fine, no problem.

This year it didn't. I spent an entire afternoon "massaging" the
dumped file, cursing everyone in the world, before I got it merged
without errors. By the next morning I realized it MUSt have been a
bug in FMP; if the stuff didn't dump out right, that's the problem
of FMP, not of the person entering the data.

Inspection of the dump file was interesting: the plain quotation
marks created in earlier versions of FMP  were properly
DOUBLED by FMP before dumping out, so that they were not "read" as
quotation marks by Word importing the file into a merge. BUT:
the "smart quotes" (created by the default option of FMP2) ARE NOT
DOUBLED and those are the ones that create problems. Since they are
not doubled, Word thinks they are "record too long" instances.

It's possible to change the default of FMP to not HAVE smart quotes,
and this might be a wise thing to do for fields with a lot of text
that may be getting dumped out in the future.

I've posted this to the Claris forum on AOL but figgered it might
be useful to someone here.

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 11:10:43 PST
From: HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software)
Subject: Have you ever seen a skull on your monitor (Q)

In article <9304150026.AA27468@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
(Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu), you write:
|Have you ever seen a skull on your monitor (Q)
|
...
|Cricket Graph III:
|Running Cricket Graph III 1.01 with VM off and 32 bit on
|often (not always !) causes the system to hang even on a completely
|bare machine with only Cricket and a system. What is both interesting and
|frightening is that sometimes when Cricket hangs, the mouse cursor changes
|into a skull (Yes, a death's face !) before the machine is dead completely.
|Running Disinfectant 3.1 gives no clues of a possible new virus present on
|the machine. What is also interesting is that although Cricket crashes with
|empty Extensions and Control panel folders it does not crash (at least much
|less) when the system was booted using the shift key. Apparently the shift
|key does more than simply disabling extensions and control panel stuff.
|
|
Cricket Graph contains an cursor resource #666 which looks like the
following:

    OOOOO
   O     O
  O  O O  O
 O  O   O  O
 O O O O O O
 O O O O O O
 O O O O O O
OO  O   O  OO
O O   O   O O
O OO OOO OO O
O  O OOO O  O
 O O OOO O O
 O OO O OO O
  O O   O O
  O OOOOO O
  O O O O O

Is this the cursor you are seeing?  If so, according to CA tech support,
it indicates a low memory condition.

Computer Associates tech support can be contacted via Internet at
76500.344@compuserve.com.  The tech support managers name is Greg
Billesbach|

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 15:50:29 EST
From: anders@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Anders Lund)
Subject: History of hte net.

I would appreciate any information on the history of the net as we know it
today. I know the startings were with AARPNET (Ithink),

If someone ahas a description of the history and a simple description of
where bitnet, usenet, internet, all fit into the picture, I would appreciate
it.

Is there a faq list of the terms used in networking/computing that includes
all the acronyms out there?

Anders
Lund

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 08:24:18 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: IIci and LC III confusion

In Regards to your letter <199304140204.AA17747@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> My attempt at a comparison of these two machines is driving me nuts.
> Comparing a document on the IIci (system 7.0.1) and the LCIII (system 7.1),
> same document, same program, same set-up and all, and one has a different
> amount of text on the page than the other, sometimes amounting to 3 to 6
> lines (the right to left justification is unchanged, i.e. the words are in
> the proper place).  This means that the text on the bottom of the page on
> one computer is on the top of the page on the other.  Very Confusing!!!!

It's likely to be slightly different versions of the printer driver,
and failing that, I have seen different formatting stem from just
different versions of the System, although that was a long time ago.

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 09:12:24 +0300
From: mtrms01@techunix.technion.ac.il
Subject: IIci vs. LCIII or Palatino is not Palatino

The reason I saw wider spaces between text lines (and thus thought that 13"
is not = 14" when it is) and found that the number of text lines on my
IIci(7.0.1) was greater than on my LCIII(7.1) was (ta ta) that the
Palatino12 on the IIci was different than the Palatino12 on the LCIII.  The
printer printed out whatever Palatino I used (I was able to duplicate both
behaviors on both machines).  As someone very wise suggested evidently the
printer is taking the line spacing from the installed font (even though, to
my knowledge, Palatino is in the printer's memory).

I am unable to distinguish the fonts using GET INFO and would have no idea
which is which without looking at a document.  The source of the difference
may have originated many moons ago when I was looking at a bunch of fonts
posted to info-mac that were supposed to be better than the System fonts (I
can't remember what the set was called....Adobe something???).  I certainly
cannot verify this since I cannot tell which is which.

Thanks to all the people who tried to help (and there were many).  The
problem did not originate in the type of printer chosen or page set up (I
checked those); the print driver was indeed different, but not the source
of the problem; and truetype could have caused the same problem had I not
removed them from both machines; but thanks again.

Anyone out there have any idea how to choose which font to keep and which
to toss???

ALSO....the LCIII on 7.1 beats the IIci on 7.0.1 every time, most likely
due to the system (I will eventually try IIci on 7.1).  Thanks for the
suggestions as to how to speed up the IIci, the prices quoted for a cache
card and video card make them attractive upgrades (after I upgrade from 8MB
to at least 12MB on both machines.....)

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 03:44:18 GMT
From: jstc_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (justin m. collins)
Subject: IIci vs LCIII (R)

In digest <9304150026.AA27468@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>In Info-Mac Digest V11 #79, Robert DeMaria wrote:

>> :
>> I hope you aren't planning on expanding your RAM to more than 8 MEG because
>> according to the chart you won't be able to on the IIci.

>This is just wrong.  I haven't seen the chart to which Robert is referring,
>but I submit my IIci with 17Meg as evidence.  Eight SIMM slots can give you
at
>least 33Meg (8 * 4Meg + 1Meg on-board).

actually the IIci does not have any memory on-board.  What you have is
4-256k simms and 4-4Meg simms.  With 8-4 Meg simms you get 32 Meg not
33 Meg.  (Sorry I just had to correct that misperception)

>- Ed


peace,
-justin m. collins
<jstc_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 13:56:16 EST
From: Robert DeMaria
<demaria%doim6.monmouth-emh3.army.mil@MONMOUTH-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: IIci vs LCIII (R)

Wow!!  What a response!  I'm glad there are people out there
keeping people like me in check.  Based on all the comments I
received I did some more checking.  The IIci can accomodate 1,2,4,
8, and 16 MB SIMMs for its 8 SIMM Slots.  With 4MB standard memory you
should be able to get 132 MB of RAM, however the only documentation
I can find (other than MACWORLD) states 32 MB max recongizable RAM.
Since we all know documentation can be wrong (MACWORLD) we will leave
it at 132 MB until someone out there can verify otherwise.

Secondly, the LC III has 4 MB standard RAM plus one SIMM slot.
This slot, since it is a 72-pin slot different than the IIci's, can
accomodate 4,8,16, and 32 MB SIMMs for a total of 36 MB RAM.  By the way
that 32 MB SIMM costs almost $2,800 (Falcon Microsystems).

As for which to buy, whatever suits your needs.  For me the LC III is
plenty.

<Bob>
P.S.  For $300 more than the LC III you can get a CENTRIS 610 4/80 ($1575
FMs).

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 12:07:02 +0200
From: sygnet@iap.fr (Jean-Francois Sygnet)
Subject: IIg connecting problem [A?]

NVG8105@mvax31.ntou.edu.tw wrote in info-mac v11 #80
>        We just got a new IIg and would like to connect it
>to our Macs, PCs and workstations. All of the PCs and
>workstations are on the ethernet. So we're thinking if we
>could connect them together via Ethernet. Some told me that
>the ethernet port on the IIg is for Macs use only, it does
>not follow (or support) TCP/IP. Is this true?

As far as I know, the answer is (unfortunatelly) yes.
The IIg has an Ethernet connection, a serial connection,
a local-talk connection, but no TCP/IP (and no unix "lpd" daemon)
support, only Printer AppleTalk Protocol (PAP ?).

>We need some information about this from someone who really
>connects IIg to Macs, PCs and workstations at the same time,
>especially via Ethernet

In practice if you do not want to add software on either
the clients (PCs, Workstations) or on the server (IIg)
or on some sort of "box" in between, you'll have to do the same
thing as we did in our lab (20 Unix boxes, 3 Macs, 3 PCs, all
connected directly to Ethernet):

1/ connect the IIg to ethernet and access it directly
(via Ethertalk i.e. AppleTalk on Ethernet) from any Mac
connected to Ethernet

2/ connect the IIg serially to a given Workstation running
(the TCP/IP based) "lpd" and access the printer from any PC
or Workstation using some sort of "lpr" program.
(some free "lpr" software exists, at least for PCs, and Unix boxes)

3/ If you have Macs not connected to Ethernet you can
connect them to the printer using LocalTalk.

The IIg can accept jobs comming from everywhere (i.e Appletalk
on ethernet, lpr/lpd on the serial connection, and Appletalk on
LocalTalk)  at the same time without any problems.
The only draw back is that the transfert speed is approx 1 Mb/s
for Macs on Ethernet, while only 19200 bps (I think) using the serial line.
Note: all of the above assume that you just want to print
postscript files from the PCs or Workstations.

hope it helps

Jean-Francois Sygnet <sygnet@iap.fr>
Institut d'Astrophysique de Paris

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 15:41:17 GMT
From: seale@possum.den.mmc.com (Eric H Seale)
Subject: indelible ink cartridges for StyleWriter?

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:
>I do not have an HP Deskwriter, but rather an Apple StyleWriter (I, not
>II, not that that oughta make a difference), and was led to think that
>such problems did not, or never had, plagued the StyleWriter.  But it
>does.  Printouts are fine unless they get rained on, condensed upon,
>etc.  (I guess I can't write any tear-jerkers, huh?)

>Anybody know if I have an alternative to 360 dpi watercolor printing?


The current DeskWriter cartridges are water-proof -- as are all the
"refill" kits I've seen advertised by 3rd-party vendors.  If you can get
a refill kit for StyleWriter cartridges, this might be the way to go
(get water-resistant ink and save money at the same time...).

Eric Seale
#include <disclaimer.std>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 10:58:01 -0500 (EST)
From: TIFFERTG@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU
Subject: Japanese Worldscript (Q)


	it has been reported that Apple introduced its Japanese scripts for
US System 7.1 on April 13.  Does anyone have any more information about them?
I would especially like to know the system requirements for using them.
How much RAM?  How much hard disk space do they take?  Thanks in advance!

	glenn d. tiffert
	(tiffertg@acfcluster.nyu.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93  17:22 GMT
From: Big Nose <LAWA%IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Laboratory Notebook/ Data Tracking Software [Q]

Dear All,

Does anyone know of or care to recommend software to assist in project
tracking in a laboratory environment. The guy who asked me this wants to
be able to type his lab book up as he does it and then go through and
pull out project stuff from the whole thing e.g.

Monday
    Project 1   Task 1
    Project 1   Task 2
    Project 2   Task 1
    Project 3   Task 1

Tuesday
    Project 3   Task 2
    Project 1   Task 3

Wednesday
    Project 2   Task 2

...

 and then be able to say "Get me all of Project 1" which would result in

Project 1
    Task 1    Monday
    Task 2    Monday
    Task 3    Tuesday

Obviously, each task is represented by an arbitrary amount of text detailing
each particular step in any experiment.

This sounds to me like a database task, but I was wondering if
anyone had seen anything that already does the above, or similar. Kind
or retrospective project management software seems to fit the bill.

All suggestions gratefully received.

Please email direct to me.

Thanks

Andy Law

( LAWA @ IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK                        Big Nose in Edinburgh )

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 16:12:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: LaTex and TeX on Machintosh. (Wow!)

Well, despite receint doubts that someone raised about the responiveness
of those reading info-mac, I have received a load of answers to my TeX on
the Mac question.  There were so many answers that I can't respond to them
all individual (although I wish I could), so to all those who wrote, thank
you greatly for the infomation.  Everyone passed on very helpful responses,
some quick and to the point, others with more emphasis on personal
experiences and suggestions.

The upshot of all that I received is that OzTeX is a quality piece of
software that will do TeX, LaTeX, preview .dvi files, and the works, all
very nicely.  Best of all, as people pointed out, OzTeX falls under the
heading of amazing stuff available by anonymous ftp.  Beautiful.  The other
suggestion commonly made was to consider the commercial package Textures,
which apparently is quicker and slicker than OzTeX, but costs money.

I have grabbed OzTeX and am going to experiment with it.  As people warned
me, it is not a small package which can occupy upwards of 10 megs (although
it can be trimmed down according to the needs you place on it).  I have
saved all of the responses, and if anyone else would like this information
I'd be happy to compile them all into a file and send them to info-mac...

Thanks again, and hopefully I will have the same good experience with
OzTeX that many others have.

Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 13:11:59 GMT
From: astein@nysernet.ORG (Alan Stein)
Subject: LaTeX or plain TeX program.

TeX is a mathematical typesetting program.  You create a source file
using any text editor.  TeX then creates a dvi file, which can be
printed on any printer, provided that a driver is available for that
printer and your machine.

I've been using OzTeX, a public domain version for the Mac, which
comes with the ability to print directly to a Laserwriter.  It's
available for ftp from a few sources, none of which come to mind
immediately.  (Actually, midway.uchicago.edu comes to mind, but I'm
not sure it's still there.)

>Okay, first, I am a *complete* TeX novice.  All I know is what the
>program is intended for, and sort of what the source and finished
>documents look like.  So I am wondering...Where can I find a program
>which will compile either TeX or LaTeX files into .dvi files?

>Or am I way off base and not even asking a question that makes sense?
>(Entirely possible...)  Any info would be nice.  We have very nice
>TeX and LaTeX compilers (I think that's what they are) and previewers
>on some Suns here, but I'd like one for home.

>Scott Kaplan
>Amherst College
>sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu
--
Alan H. Stein                     astein@israel.nysernet.org

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 13:10:37 -0400
From: Chris Smith <cbsmith@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: LC III or Centris 610 for math related (esp SPSS)

Basically, the call goes like this: anything that actually uses an FPU is
faster even on a Colour Classic w/FPU than a Centris 610. However..... the
speed difference between a 610 and an LC III is significant, as the '040
chips have something like the clock doubler found in Intel's DX2 machines.
Inside the CPU, the 610 is screaming away at 40MHz. This means, that anything
that *doesn't* require FPU, the 610 is going blow the LC III away. I'm not
familiar with SPSS, but basically, your deciding factor should be "Just how
much *does* this program use the FPU??" A lot of programs *don't*, even though
they seem very "Math Oriented" (spreadsheets, for example, don't really use
the FPU). If you *do* need an FPU..... boy I'd really be tempted to go with
anything with a full '040 in it. Even a cheapie used Quadra 700, because
having
the FPU internal makes a big difference again with performance (and the 700's
FPU is running at 50MHz like the rest of the chip....).

--Chris

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 16:41:01 GMT
From: kerr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Stan Kerr)
Subject: Logitech mouse driver version 1.11

A few weeks ago I saw a note posted that Logitech has a new driver
(version 1.11) for their 3-button Macintosh mouse. I called Logitech and they
kindly sent it to me. I can report that it appears to work quite
well, and has the X-important feature of accepting modifier keys
with mouse clicks. A modifier is simply passed through by the driver, e.g.
in MacX with the middle button mapped to option-left-arrow, the
action control-middle-button is mapped to control-option-left-arrow,
which MacX interprets as META-middle-button. In the finder, with the
middle button mapped to double-click, option-middle-button is mapped
to option-double-click, which opens an item and simultaneously closes
the folder containing it. This makes the Logitech mouse a much more
fully functional mouse for X Windows, at last!

Of course, those who want complete programmability of the mouse
might still wish the modifers were not just passed through, e.g. in
the Finder you might want option-middle-button to do something quite
different from option-double-click, but as long as middle-button does
a double-click, you have no choice.
--

Stan Kerr
Computing & Communications Services Office, U of Illinois/Urbana
Phone: 217-333-5217  Email: stankerr@uiuc.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 18:22:09 EDT
From: hallofjustice!bursik@uunet.UU.NET (Dave Bursik)
Subject: Mac-to-Sun Sound Conversion? [Q]

I see that there is a Sun-to-Mac sound converter in the archives
(sound/program/sun-ulaw-to-mac.hqx), but is there a program (or
a method) that goes the other direction (mac-to-sun-ulaw)?

I would like to entertain [or wreak havoc upon :-)] my co-workers
with some of the sounds that are available for the Mac.

Please send replies via e-mail to uunet!lccinc!bursik (a.k.a.
bursik%lccinc@uunet.uu.net).

Thanks.

-Dave ("The Mac Hatter") Bursik

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 04:15:01 GMT
From: rik@world.std.com (Rik Ahlberg)
Subject: Mac Insurance (R)

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>John Thoo asks:

>>Does anyone own any insurance for Mac equipment?  I've been thinking
>>lately that perhaps I should invest in some, perhaps as part of some
>>type of renter's insurance; but then something from a company called
>>`Safeware' (Columbus, OH) showed up in my snailmailbox yesterday.

I got the same mailing and think I'll fax them for more info... it seems
odd that they cover whatever you have without requiring a specific list of
equipment, just a price range.

But they claim they cover you for complete replacement without
depreciation... and that on my 5-year-old SE would be great if it were
ever stolen or damaged.

And it's a minor premium, only about $70 to cover up to $5,000 worth of
equipment for a year.

You might also want to look into insurance services offered by the large
users groups (BCS, BMUG, etc.) as I was just looking at a flyer on an
extension policy for homeowners insurance from the BCS.

Rik

Sources:  Safeware, 2929 N. High St., PO Box 02211, Columbus, OH 43202
	  BCS Insurance Services (COMPASS Associates), 1-800-464-0703

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 20:08:37 CDT
From: edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden)
Subject: MacWrite Pro versus After Dark

I received my upgrade to MacWrite Pro last week, and I soon noticed a
problem that Berkeley Systems has confirmed: when you have a document open
in MacWrite Pro, After Dark -- 2.0x, anyway, which is what I'm using --
will not automatically sleep. You may still place the pointer in your
'sleep now' corner to activate After Dark, but autosleep doesn't work.

I reported the problem to both Berkeley Systems and Claris in their forums
on CompuServe. Berkeley Systems confirms that they've been able to
duplicate the trouble, and that they've contacted Claris technical support
as of Wednesday, 14 April. Two other CIS users have commented on my
original message, telling me that they, too, have experienced the same
problem. However, Claris has yet to respond to my initial inquiry.

Berkeley Systems says that MacWrite Pro is probably performing some
background activity that's keeping After Dark awake. My guess is that it's
related to either MacWrite Pro's ability to continually update the date and
time in a document, or to its publish and subscribe feature. But I could be
wrong...

More on the situation as it develops.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:55:24 UTC+0200
From: Rafael Collantes <rafael@iit.upco.es>
Subject: MacX + System 7.1 =..... Trouble!

Hi!
I am sorry if that is a FAQ , but I am not able to
set the Host on MacX + system 7.1. It works O.K. with
system 7.0
My configuration:
 System E 7.1 (Spainsh)
 MacTCP 1.1
 AdminTCP 1.1
 MacTCP Tool 1.1.7
 MacX 1.1.7
Tried on Centris 650 and IIsi, with the same result. When you press the
Host...
button on the remote commands edit window, nothing happens. (it should
show the MacTCP Tool dialog box).

If anyone has suceed using MacX with System 7.1, I would appreciate if she/he
sends me the system configuration and the MacTCP, MacX, MacTCP Tool versions.

Regards from Spain

Rafael Collantes

------------------------------

Date: 15 Apr 1993 12:12:45 -0500
From: hahm@ee.deere.com (Ron Hahm)
Subject: MAC X problems, to clarify

I appreciate all the responses I have gotten to my query.  Some of the
responses where in regards to solutions to SUN's.  The problems I have been
running into where trying to connect to a RS/6000 and SGI workstations.
As far as I can tell the /etc/hosts file is configured correctly to recognize
and see the MAC I am trying to get the XTERM to work.  I have made sure that
the path was included in the statement to start the XTERM.  I am interested in
finding out if anyone working in a similar UNIX environment described above
have run into the same problems.

Again, thanks for all your suggestions,

Ronald Hahm
hahm@ee.deere.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 17:31:45 PDT
From: x1jost@exnet.iastate.edu (Mark Jost -- Communication Specialist)
Subject: micro database packages

I manage a database that tracks more than 3,000 publications. The
current system is not very powerful or flexible, and it does not provide
the accounting/financial reports we need.

I am looking for a software program that would track inventory,
integrate accounting functions and generate financial reports,
incorporate bar coding, provide printing histories of each publication,
and generate mailing lists. And maybe a few more things when I think of
them. The system will run primarily on Macs (networked), but
compatibility with DOS would be nice.

I am considering off-the-shelf packages (i.e. FoxBase+/Mac and FoxPro)
but am also willing look at higher-end packages that would require less
tailoring and programming, and include more support.

What do those of you with database experience suggest? Is FoxBase+/Mac a
good bet? Are there better systems available? What do they cost, how do
they work, how have you used them, etc.? IUd appreciate any
advice/information youUd be willing to share. Thanks.

Please respond to me at x1jost@exnet.iastate.edu.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 11:58:21 GMT
From: larry@mitre.org (Larry Langrehr(J23) x6340)
Subject: need folder pswd protect

I need a shareware program that will simply protect folders (or files)
with a password (controlled access).  Anyone know of a simple little
shareware program for the Mac and where it can be obtained from?
llangreh@mitre.org       Larry L. Langrehr
Thanks,
Larry

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 16:59:00 +0100
From: karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be (Karl Pottie)
Subject: network fax

We're looking for a network fax which can be shared by a number of users.
All devices we examined so far allow users to SEND faxes from their
desktop. We are looking for a system which also allows us to RECEIVE faxes
and transfer them (by some kind of manual intervention) to the user's
desktop. Are there any such beasts ?

 ----------
Karl Pottie
Macintosh Consultant for the University Hospitals of Leuven, Belgium

karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 06:28:46 +0200
From: jabr@sylfest.cdn.cdc.com (Jan G. Brandvold)
Subject: NFS server software for Mac?

Rafael,

You may use NFS/Share from InterCon Systems Corp.
(commecnt@intercon.com) ,but that's "just" a NFS/Client
for the Macs. It works fine and quit fast, but it's not
AppleShare !

AppleShare for Unix can be delivered fromseveral sources.
I know of HELIOS EtherShare from Heliosin Germany.
They shipped versions for Sun,Sony,IBM and Digital Ultrix.
(Not DG).

Another alternative is LMserver from Syntax who are shipping
on almost all Unix platforms (DG is incl.) They also ship a
LanManager server for PCs. I am responible for 6 installations
in Norway  with from 20 to 100s of PCs.
Syntax are currently porting their TotalMac product that supports
AppleTalk under Unix to many Unix versions. It support filesharing
over TCP/IP, NetBEUI, IPX and OSI.You may share printer, the
files are stored as Unix files and several other features.I'll
install TotalMac as soon as possible (in 4 weeks for our Unix)
and I can inform any who may be interested on how that works.

You may contact:Syntax, 840 South 33rd Street, Federal Way,
WA 98003, U.S.A.
or their Spanish rep. which my brochure
says is:Sociedad Espanola De Fomento Informatico (SEI),
Ignacio Megias, (phone +34-3-082-231, fax -081-824)

Jan Brandvold,Oslo,Norway



Jan G. Brandvold
Customer Service Manager
________________________________________
Control Data A/S, P.O.Box 112 Refstad,
N-0513 OSLO, Norway

email:jabr@sylfest.cdn.cdc.com
fax: +47 2 15 98 21    phone: +47 2 15 14 00


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 15:07:50
From: "G.BERRY" <AP1316@PRIMEA.DUNDEE.AC.UK>
Subject: odd applications

Hello all,
	I have only recently discovered the Sumex-Aim archive and have been
downloading several files for use on my Mac LC.  However, while I normally
encounter no problems, a couple of programs have produced icons with the
name in the format "application.image" after running Binhex and un-stuffing
the archives.  These can not be launched in the usual way (i.e. double-
clicking) or opened by a word processor (I assume this is because they
are binary files and not text files).  Trying to launch the program gives
the standard "..application could not be found" type Mac alert.  Are these
files disk images or do they require to be converted to a different format
before I open them.  If anyone can throw some light on this problem I
would be very grateful.  Please reply via e-mail (gberry@uk.ac.dundee.primea)
			Thanks in advance, Graham Berry.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 01:09:55 EDT
From: "Tim Colson" <tlcolson@cmg.health.ufl.edu>
Subject: Outbound vs. Powerbook???

I am confronted with a major dilemma.

I eat, sleep, breathe, and shower with my Macintosh.
-> THIS is NOT the dilemma. :)

I have decided that despite the sparseness of my student
income, I am one of the few people who I feel really NEEDS to purchase
a portable of some sort/form. Due to the cost, I can't just
plunk down the cash for a PB 180. I -think- a PB 100 with 6 megs would
do fine. However, the market price for one still hangs at around $900!
For a 68000 based machine without a drive this seems slightly absurd.

I have recently seen adds for Outbound portables (2030E and 2030S) both for
substantially less than almost any PB, new or used.

Other than the following info, what do y'all know about em'??????
  1) Internal HD is an IDE type drive and is expensive to upgrade
      120 MB HD Connor = $575.00
  2) Max ram is 14 meg with four 4-meg simms
  3) SCSI external is "normal"
  4) Screen Size is one inch bigger than PB's
  5) Outbound is out of business, period.
  6) Perfit, an outfit in Colorado, services and upgrades them now.
  7) They CAN run 7.1 or 6.07...seamlessly. (???)
  8) They actually have Mac ROMS, from what machine, I don't know.
      32-bit clean???
  9) Full size keyboard
 10) They're cheap.

Keep in mind, what I really want is to be able to do the following
three things:
  1) Run MS Word and MS Excel simultaneously (not neccesarily fast, but
  definitely simul.)
  2) Hopefully run Voice Navigator Software version SIMUL with #1.
  3) Do both 1/2 anywhere I happen to be from lab bench to park bench!

If you have ANY Outbound info, please mail me direct as I am trying to decide
what on earth to purchase...and I've never even SEEN one of these little
beasts, let alone touched one!
ADVTHANKSANCE
Timothy
"tlcolson@cmg.health.ufl.edu"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 08:53:40 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Plotting and Graphing Software for Windows

I have a Windows user drooling over the capabilities and ease of use of my
KaleidaGraph software for Macintosh.  We are currently trying to find out
if Synergy Software makes a Windows product, or can reccommend something
similar for Windows.  In particular, opening several datafiles and plotting
data from all of them on one chart, would be a desireable feature.

I realize that the best thing PC users can do with Windows is to jump out
of them, but I would appreciate some serious suggestions for alternative
graphing software for Windows.

Thank you.

Tom Wilson                       Voice: (615) 574-3927
Oak Ridge National Laboratory      FAX: (615) 576-7926
<wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 14:21:08 EST
From: Kenneth Simon <KSSIMON@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Safeware Computer Insurance

 In answer to the recent musings about the Safeware Insurance Company:
I just bought some insurance from them after checking with the
Better Business Bureau: they are a member of the BBB with no complaints
on file.  They have been in business since 1982.

Sounds promising to me!

 ------------
Kenneth Simon, Indiana University
Internet: KSSIMON@INDIANA.EDU   Bitnet: KSSIMON@IUBACS

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 11:47:54 -0400
From: Michael Grabenstein <mikeg@asylum.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Scanner & Film recorder (Q) & my opinions...

	First the opinions:
	Speeding you LC, IMHO go for the LC III upgrade. Its about the
same as an accelerator and offers comparable speeds. If that is not fast
enough for you, later on buy an accelerator for your LC III. Because an
accelerator in the LC III will have even better performance than one in
a LC (II).

	Chipsoft, with the news of their aquiring of Meca; I am quite
disturbed. Years ago MacInTax was the only game in town. Then Chipsoft,
having made large amount of money in the IBM world with turbo tax, decided
to break the Mac market with their version of turbo tax for the Mac. If
memory serves me, it flopped in the face of a far superior product
(MacInTax).
So Chipsoft bought MacInTax from If/X and again there was only one game
in town. This year a new competitor emgerges, Tax Cut, which I don't
believe took a lot of sales from MacInTax, still it took its portion.
So Chipsoft buys out Meca again making MacInTax the only game in town
again. Anyone else see a pattern here? (Anybody know a lot about anti-
trust laws?)

	End of my rambling...
Question:
	I am looking at the possiblity of starting a new company. I would
need professional level scanning and film recording devices. The products
I have found are the Agafa Arcus plus scanner and Agafa's film recorder.
Do anyone know of other scanners and/or film recorders that may be better
to look at? Note products in excess of 50k are not in my bussinesses budget
yet. Pros an cons about the Agafa products would be appreciated too.
Please, e-mail me and if there is enough response I will summarize.

Thanks,
	Mike    mikeg@asylum.gsfc.nasa.gov

------------------------------

Date: 15 Apr 1993 16:47:06 -0500
From: "Connolly/SL" <cnnmj@hermes.bc.edu>
Subject: sil-ipa.hqx

On two different occasions when I have downloaded the info-mac font package
sil-hpa.hqx, I have found on unstuffing that it, in fact, contains a Microsoft
Mail 3.0b Netmanager Mailing.sea and not the fonts I was looking for.
This first happened back in February, and the source said that he would check
into having the correct file posted.  On trying again today I found the
content
of SIL-IPA.sit unchanged.
Has anyone else one noticed this?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 13:36:12 PDT
From: b4sim@dny.rockwell.com (Building 4 Simulation Group)
Subject: statistical and process simulation

Hi all Mac-netters!

Does anyone have knowledge of some statistical and/or process simulation
software?  I know I can program Excel to get it to do Monte Carlo
type simualtions but I am looking for something that can also do
cost models, and has a nice front end.  One product that was mentioned
to me before was Extend, but I have never heard of it.

PLease e-mail me directly, and then I'll sned a summary back to the
info-mac list.  Thanks!!

Oleg Chaikovsky
Sun/Mac Systems Manager
Rockwell International
b4sim@space.dny.rockwell.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 14:40 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL@siva.bris.ac.uk>
Subject: Symbol Bold

I'd been meaning to ask about this ever since we recently tried to edit
Mathematica's PostScript graphics to include some bold characters in the
Symbol font, and discovered to our surprise that there is no such thing as
Symbol-Bold in the laserwriter ROM.  In the end we didn't need those
characters after all so I put the matter aside, until an exchange in
comp.sys.mac.system brought it up again.

It turns out that there really isn't a Postscript form of Symbol Bold (at
least Apple don't supply it), but the laserwriter can usually simulate the
bold form of a unstyled font by just increasing the line widths.  But there
is a further complication with Symbol; Apple have somehow disabled this
simulation feature in the SCREEN font which they've supplied.  To get Symbol
in bold from a laserwriter, you need to use the Adobe screen version of
Symbol (available in /font here at Sumex).

My question for the ResEdit/Fontographer wizards out there is, what is it
about the screen font that can enable or disable the PostScript simulation
of a styled font (such as bold or italic)?  I've compared the Adobe and
Apple versions of Symbol and there seem to be quite a few differences in the
FONDs, so it may not be localised to a few entries.  But if it is, then it
would probably be easier to just edit those entries rather than swap the
screen fonts, especially as the kerning on the Adobe fonts is different!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 08:21:16 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: System Heap issue of TidBITS

For all those who are interested in the System Heap issue, I would
refer you to TidBITS#82/System_Heap (available at sumex in the 10-issue
archive of TidBITS that goes from 81 to 90). The issue is by Andrew
Welch of shareware fame, and is extremely well done.

I think it's:

   /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-81-to-90.hqx

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 16:39:59 +0200
From: Jacob Palme SKHB  <jpalme@heron.dafa.se>
Subject: Translation from Microsoft Word to text files

I am not very happy with the very unintelligent way in which
Microsoft Word translates Word files into pure text files.

I would like a blank line between the paragraphs in the
text file, tables to become corresponding tables in the
text file, headings to become recognizable headings in
the text file etc.

Maybe I will write such a translation program myself.
This letter is to ask if someone has already written
the program I am asking for.

Please answer personally to me, I will summarize your
replies to the list.

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 10:32 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL@siva.bris.ac.uk>
Subject: Urdu font

Charles Patrick asks if an Urdu script is available for the Mac.  While I
don't actually know, I'd like to broaden the question by first noting that
in London the other day I saw a Performa 400 with the HINDI script would
you believe, which is another thing you never hear about.  Which makes
me wonder - what scripts are supported now/in the near future by Apple,
excluding the ones you "usually" come across, ie

Roman (always supported)

(one-byte)
Arabic
Hebrew
Cyrillic
Persian
Urdu???
Hindi???

(two-byte)
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Thai???

And are there third-party scripts available for 7.0/7.1?

In advance, thanks/shukran/todah/xiexie/efkharisto etc etc (as you can
see mainframes aren't quite "world-ready" yet!)

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 15:42:56 EST
From: anders@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Anders Lund)
Subject: V [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines

Subject: [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines

>Michael Everson, in a feat of tremendous grammatical gymnastics, writes:

>>Can anyone let me know what the most effective way of upgrading
>>LCs so that they run faster is? [Astonishing syntax, isn't it?]
>>It seems to take the LCI and LCII forever to do anything. I'm
>>interested in processor/accelerator as well as memory solutions.

>For my money, The Apple LC/LCIII upgrade seems to be the best buy.  For
>$599, my local Apple dealer will take my hard drive out of my LC and put
>it into a brand-new LCIII.  I get virtually a whole new machine.

This is different from my understanding... If I were to do this to my LC
all I would upgrade is the  board, I would still have the same floppy drive/
video capabilities (ie no support of the 16" monitor)....  ANy insight into
this would be appreciated.

Anders Lund

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 1:27:18 MDT
From: Eric Lorenzo <lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Vertical Centris 610?

	Will a Centris 610 with internal HD and CD-ROM work if I have it
in a vertical position?  I was told that I must format the HD in this
position, but will the CD-ROM be effected in any fashion?

Thanks,
Eric

lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU

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Date: 15 Apr 93 07:02:31 GMT+1
From: "Szoboszlai Mihaly"  <SZOBOSZLAI@eszd.bme.hu>
Subject: VideoSync update

Does anyone know new version of VideoSync?

It is a cdev and version 1.0 was released in 1990 by John
Murata & friends.
Does anyone know Murata's e-mail or fax number?

Thanks in advance,

Mihaly Szoboszlai
Technical University of Budapest
Faculty of Architecture

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